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  Please Help Headisspinning With Her iPhone!

  by headisspinning in

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  hey guys.... i'm still here and following every day but it's all on my iphone so i can't comment or message or post replies and i'm going crazy!.

  little baby boy - darling that he is - pulls my hair, yanks on my shorts, scratches and bites my skin or wails whenever i try to go online... once he's up on my lap.. .well, watch out keyboard!.

  (oh how i long to bring him to the kingdom hall - lol!).

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  The thread below could be of help. I posted what worked for me there when using an iPhone.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/forum/tech-support/206152/1/Using-JWN-on-a-smartphone

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  My Story - Part 4

  by Jeremy C in

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  part 1. part 2. part 3. i submitted my regular pioneer application in late 1993 so that i could officially begin on january 1st.

  i knew that my application would get the rubber stamp of approval from the service committee since i had never been involved in any conduct that would prevent my appointment.. i was however slightly rebellious throughout my teens; but it was what i would refer to as a "watchtower rebelliousness".

  you see, i believe that there are two forms of rebelliousness among jw youth.

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  Wow! A pleasure to read indeed. Thanks for sharing.
  But, ah, well,......where is part 5? LOL
  Patiently waiting.

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  Interracial Marriage

  by Quendi in

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  here is a question i want to pose because i do not know the correct answer.

  i have seen many interracial married couples among jehovah's witnesses--moreso than i have seen in other religions.

  however, i have been told that once upon a time, interracial marriage was frowned upon by the wts hierarchy.

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  How many meetings does a JW attend in a week?

  by jwfacts in

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  i always found it a bit deceptive to say we attended five meetings a week, when in reality it was only 3. now that there are meetings only twice a week, do witnesses still claim to attend 5 meetings a week or four?.

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  jwfacts, regarding the count that is taken at the meetings, as far as I know, it is only done twice a week now.

  I don't recall if there was a letter from the society, but while I was still a MS in the congregation I attend, all the elders and MSs were told that starting last September, on the days of PT and Watchtower study, the count would only be taken during the study. And for the night of the CBS, TMS, and SM, the count would be taken 20 min. after the begining of the CBS.

  Supposedly, it was to simplify matters. It would seem now though with the change, that one meeting average can't bring down the whole average attendance for all the meetings because the count is being taken once and after about the time when even the normal late comers have arrived and taken their seats. Higher numbers = higher average.

  Can anyone else confirm what I just wrote, via a letter or being told the same thing at their hall?

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  YouTube: Jehovah's Witnesses: Forever

  by leavingwt in

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  i enjoyed this video, by an ex-jw.

  it reminds me of all the people that many of us had to leave behind to break free of the wt.

  i remain hopeful that many will continue to awaken and abandon the apocalyptic culture.

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  Thanks for posting LWT.

  It's kind of weird now thinking about how in the past, I would look at pictures and see ones "that left Jehovah". I wondered how they were and remembered the good times we had together. Pictures can bring back some good memories, and yet at the same time, also cause pain.

  Now, with me somewhat being on the other side, I think to myself how some of the people "still serving Jehovah", despite us having shared great times and being able to share fond memories of them, may no longer speak to me since I'm slowly "leaving Jehovah".

  Hey, their loss. I no longer feel guilted into doing something just to be an associate of somebody.

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  How did you tell your mate that .....

  by stuckinamovement in

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  you no longer believed that the watchtower organization was the truth, and that you were no longer going to go to the meetings or service?.

  and a followup question... what was the response?.

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  In answer to your question SIAM, it wasn't easy. While my wife is a laid back witness that doesn't agree completely with all the JW things, she still believes they are being directed by God.

  I first revealed how I felt while driving for a weekend getaway. I had asked my wife if she ever felt that something just wasn't right in the org. She responded by saying that there was nothing she had really thought about or seen. So I told her that I had this feeling that something just wasn't right for a little while now. (Part of my issue was also that I had burned myself out with "spiritual activity".) And because of that, I had begun to do "research". (I had already started to lurk here on this site because of my overwhelming thoughts and doubts.)

  I let her know some of the things that were bothering me and just no longer made sense. (At this time I was still a MS. So I was able to express some of the things I came across in that position.) She seemed to understand where I was coming from, but was worried and warned me to be careful about apostates online. This was the start of it.

  As time progressed, I began to feel it was necessary to say more rather than to give her false hope that this was just "a passing thing". So on the way home from dinner, perhaps a year later from my first conversation, I revealed that I no longer believed this was the truth.

  It just came out! What a relief it was to me, but a bombshell to my wife! That really threw her for a loop and she remained stressed out for a little while about it. There wasn't much I could say to comfort her during any conversation we had after that. Things reached the point to where she was just shy of outrightly calling me apostate. Our conversations would become rather heated, despite us both struggling not to let it reach that point.

  I would let time pass before I tried to reveal anything else. Then came the night I took her to a see a play. (I don't know why, but I seem to choose enjoyable events to say how I feel and at times end up ruining the night.) I told her I no longer wanted or had the desire to go out in the ministry. I could not see myself promoting something that I no longer believed fully and inviting others to join me knowing inside I was contemplating a way out. Needless to say, that was another bombshell to my wife. She said that now she feared that the only thing left would be for me to say I no longer wanted to attend meetings. I expressed that I could see that being a future possibility.

  For a few weeks after that, she would try to invite me out in service. She would get ready to leave in the morning and give me the disappointed look that I wasn't going. I gave in about 2-3 times and finally expressed to her how difficult it is to just act like I was enjoying it in front of other people. I would be a hypocrite according to JW's if either I went out in service but didn't feel it in my heart or just stayed home and became bloodguilty. (I found the bloodguilty route to be easier , for me at least. LOL)

  There are probably a lot more details, but this is the gist of it. Her demeanor has changed, I must admit though. She actually seems a lot more comfortable with my decisions now. One of the things I strove to share with her was the effect of fear. Anything I said that was contrary to our JW life scared her.

  My way to try to help her deal with this was sharing a line from the movie Batman Begins. LOL One of the villians in that said that "you always fear what you don't understand." I told her she was scared because she could not relate to or understand how I felt. And I asked how she thought I felt, suddenly facing a change in what I believed all my life. As she began to try to relate to some of my feelings, it seemed to cause a calming over her sentiments.

  While that didn't automatically change things, it did help her to start to loosen up a little. And I often asked her, as has been suggested on this site, whether I treated her differently as a husband. She admitted that no, I didn't change. She actually felt it brought us closer, with all the talking we were doing.

  Currently, I can't complain too much with the way things are. For example, many times, if she's tired and doesn't feel like going to the meeting, like this past weekend, (she knows I won't go without her) she remains just as happy for me to stay home with her or enjoy myself doing something else.

  I don't know what the future holds, but so far I'm not feeling stressed out because of it.

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  What if Christainty is right?

  by mankkeli in

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  i was just wondering, what if afterall, christainity is right, what if there would be a ressurection, what if the heavenly hope is a valid aspiration god has set in place for faithful servants, what would be the hope of about 1.3million apostate dissidents who turned their back on the jw brand of christainity, where would they be?, some here seems to represent the anti-christ depicted in the bible, but what would be their hope, would god out of his abundant mercy shield us somehow and what would be the rationale behind his protection?.

  life as we presently live it is confusing, the future as perceived is unpredictable, we may think our corpses are deemed to serve as manure, but whereas what if there is really life after death.

  how would god judge those who seem to have spat on his face?, would he view us as mere victims of abundant hypocrisy in a confused world?.

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  Your question is a classic case of half full/half empty. Either/or.
  You ask what if Christianity is right? How about ask, what if they are wrong?
  It depends on how you look at it.
  When you've been conditioned for years to think it's the only right way, what else can be considered right?
  It's time to think outside of the box.

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  OMIGAWD...

  by AGuest in

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  for some reason i have allowed myself to let my tv channel stay stuck on... wait for it... "the maury povich" show!

  talk about a train wreck... or several train wrecks... looping... over... and over... and over... and after each scenario i tell myself "change the dang channel!

  " then... another "wreck".

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  LOL @ Shelby!! I used to watch Maury when the show came on at work. And I was always shocked at the same thing.

  What is wrong with those people? Why air out your business on TV? Is it really entertaining? Apparently it is or it wouldn't be on TV for so long.

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  That Magical Number: 2,520

  by Quendi in

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  i wanted to relate this experience i had on sunday while renewing ties with an old friend.

  we argued about the meaning of daniel 4 and nebuchadnezzar's "tree dream".

  my friend had insisted this dream told the reader the length of the gentile times.

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  Chronicles of Chaldaean kings (626-556 BC) in the British Museum.

  by VM44 in

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  chronicles of chaldaean kings (626-556 bc) in the british museum.http://www.etana.org/node/844.

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